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Post by nzbc on Jan 13, 2018 23:00:54 GMT 12
Caroline Louisa Tahana (abt. 1857 - 1898) Born about 1857 in New Plymouth, New Zealandmap ANCESTORS ancestors Daughter of Wiremu Tutu Te Tahana and Mary (Bishop) Hill Sister of Mary Mere (Tahana) Sing [spouse(s) unknown] [children unknown] Died 20 Nov 1898 in Puniho, Taranaki, New Zealand Caroline was born about 1857. She was the daughter of Wiremu Te Tahana and Mary Bishop. She passed away in 1898. Sources Marriage New Zealand, Marriage Index, 1840-1937:- Name Caroline Louisa Tahana Gender Female Marriage Year 1876 Marriage Place New Zealand Spouse Edward James Blake Relation Bride Folio Number 1744 www.wikitree.com/photo/jpg/Tahana-1
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Post by nzbc on Jan 13, 2018 23:03:05 GMT 12
Wiremu Tutu Te Tahana (abt. 1835 - abt. 1861) Wiremu Tutu Te Tahana Born about 1835 in Te Kawau Pa, Taranaki, New Zealandmap Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown] [sibling(s) unknown] Husband of Mary (Bishop) Hill — married 1 Jun 1855 (to 1860) in Trinity chapel, Te Henui, New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealandmap Father of Mary Mere (Tahana) Sing and Caroline Louisa Tahana Died about Mar 1861 in New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand
Biography Wiremu Tahana is described as a Native Assessor (policeman) and interpreter. He travelled widely throughout Taranaki from Mokau to Parihaka and was employed by the local government as a Court interpreter and to keep the peace. On 10 May 1854 he donated 1 pound to the Wesleyan Maori Church Building Fund. In 1857 he was offering for sale 50 acres of part fern, part bush land in the Hua District with a contact to a Bishop. He also sought to sell a 2-storey timber house, 5 ground floor rooms and 2 upper ones, for removal in the same area. He must have had some affluence.
By 1858 he was being described as "an active party" in disturbances at Bell Block, Hua, Waitara and Huirangi areas. These were mostly by small groups of armed Maori, generally harrassing the travelling public and stopping food & other supplies from being delivered. It also included the ploughing up of pasture land. No general violence was caused although food could be taken. On 5 February 1858 he was Gazetted by the Provincial Secretary, I N Watt - : 10. That two Native Assessors named Raniera and Tahana have taken an active part in the late disturbances (around Bell Block).... On the 12 March 1859 he addressed a meeting with the Governor of NZ, Col.Gore Browne. On 7th January 1861 he was jailed for "communicating with the enemy", by passing a letter to the 'rebels'.
Nothing more is heard of from him, until his Estate notice appears in the Taranaki Herald in 1865. It appears several local Maori from the area were sent to the Chatham Islands as rebels. I am sure he did not die until after 1861 (Janice Liddle 2013)
Marriage - NZBDM 11855/1123
Death - Tuberculosis?
Birth No.742 - Wesleyan Baptism Records of Maori of Taranaki district & their parentage - (Fred Butler Archive)
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Post by nzbc on Jan 13, 2018 23:04:20 GMT 12
MERE TAHANA. ♦ DEATH OF AN OLD CHIEFTAINESS [Pcs, Pbjess Associatiox.] NEW PLYMOUTH, September 25. Influenza and pneumonia have claimed a heavy death roll amongst the Maoris of late, the latest being Mere Tahana, one of the beet known Maori women in this district. For the last forty years she had been a prominent figure in and out of town. Mere died at Puketotara on Monday. She had outlived many husbands, and she was wonderfully well preserved and vigorous for her years. She was a member of the Ngati Parikino Bapu, of thfe Ngatiawa tribe, people who in former years inhabited the country along tho Valley ot Henui, and at the Kawau pa in New Plymouth. She was a woman of rank in her hapu, and had a very good knowledge of the history of her tribe. Her age was about seventy-five. She has left no children. Deceased had been ailing for some time, and exposure in attending the tangis that have been so numerous this winter told its tale. She was taken to the New Plymouth Hospital about a fortnight ago, but her friends at her request took her back to the old home at Puketotara on Saturday to die, as is the custom of # the Maori, amongst the tribe. The dwindling remnant of these people is; now reduced to just a few, probably not a score. SurpJy and swiftly the true Maori is passing, and as the elders pass away there are few, if any, to etep into the breach to make good the loss. MERE TAHANA. STAR, ISSUE 9043, 25 SEPTEMBER 1907 paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/TS19070925.2.25
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Post by nzbc on Jan 13, 2018 23:10:28 GMT 12
Page 81 Crown grant register Taranaki T 11 P 51 1887 rural allotment 117 (Puketapu block) Waitara-West District New Zealand Settlements Act 1863 & New Zealand Settlement Amendment and Continuance Act 1865 Karo Tahana, Mere Tahana and Ani Tahana 35:3:28 (12:0:0, 12:0:0 and 11:3:28 to each grantee respectively) as tenants in common and not as joint tenants 10 July 1866 (effective) and 24 August 1872 (issued) 2262 situated on Kairau Rd forms.justice.govt.nz/search/Documents/WT/wt_DOC_93676674/Wai%20143%2C%20F025.pdf
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Post by nzbc on Jan 13, 2018 23:13:04 GMT 12
Page 16 Investigated by Native Land Court Title to Hoehoe (50:0:00) was investigated by the Native Land Court at New Plymouth on 13 June 1887. Mere Tahana and four others were declared owners, and the court ordered that a grant be made by the Crown to them as tenants in common in the shares set out next to their names. 2 acres 1 rood 24 perches of roadway had been excluded from investigation forms.justice.govt.nz/search/Documents/WT/wt_DOC_93676674/Wai%20143%2C%20F025.pdf
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Post by nzbc on Jan 13, 2018 23:14:55 GMT 12
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Post by Gerald Sydney Thorner on Apr 27, 2018 16:43:14 GMT 12
I am descended from Wiremu Tahana and I have been to where Kum Sing had his shop on the corner of Grover and Devon Str. in N Plymouth, opposite the Grand. Mere Cum Sing's grave at Te Henga is lovely _I think William is buried with her or next door and Louis probably with her. I am not sure why Mere was not buried at the Hua at the Hoewaka urapa at Bell Block by the old St Lukes Church. The Hua is an lovely spot. My grandfather Sydney Egmont Barr his mother's maiden name was Minnie Kum Sing and her mother was a Tahana-Puketapu Hapu-of Te Atiawa iwi.Our marae is Muru Ruapatu and our village was The Hua at the south west end of Bell Block. The old St Lukes Church use to be called The Hua Village Church.(Streets in the locality include Hua Street, Tahana Street and Bishop Street. I cant remember Minnie Barr nee Kum Sing but according to my mother Norma Barr she had met me.Regards Gerald Sydney Thorner (Hoewaka whanua) Puketapu iwi (Hua division) Te Atiawa Iwi.
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Post by Gerald Sydney Thorner on Aug 14, 2018 9:07:15 GMT 12
I think it was Te Tahana Papawaka who was the native assessor not Wiremu Tahana my direct ancestor .Wiremu married Mary Bishop in 1855(it was the talk of the town when they married.)Her father was Daniel Bishop (a ferryman) who is buried at St Lukes Churchyard(Hua Village Church). I would like to know who the wife of Te Tahana Papawaka was.(He was the uncle of Wiremu). I have read several conflicting reports about who Te Tahana was married to.His house has been archaeologically excavated and the findings published,before the motorway went through the western part of Bell Block,which was where the Hua was located.Any information would be appreciated.Kum Sing is also my direct ancestor,and information about his death presumably in Wellington would be appreciated. Regards and aroha Gerald Sydney Thorner,(Te Atiawa, Puketapu,Hoewaka-Hua Division.)
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Post by dentalnurse on Jul 6, 2019 21:24:03 GMT 12
I am descended from Wiremu Tahana and I have been to where Kum Sing had his shop on the corner of Grover and Devon Str. in N Plymouth, opposite the Grand. Mere Cum Sing's grave at Te Henga is lovely _I think William is buried with her or next door and Louis probably with her. I am not sure why Mere was not buried at the Hua at the Hoewaka urapa at Bell Block by the old St Lukes Church. The Hua is an lovely spot. My grandfather Sydney Egmont Barr his mother's maiden name was Minnie Kum Sing and her mother was a Tahana-Puketapu Hapu-of Te Atiawa iwi.Our marae is Muru Ruapatu and our village was The Hua at the south west end of Bell Block. The old St Lukes Church use to be called The Hua Village Church.(Streets in the locality include Hua Street, Tahana Street and Bishop Street. I cant remember Minnie Barr nee Kum Sing but according to my mother Norma Barr she had met me.Regards Gerald Sydney Thorner (Hoewaka whanua) Puketapu iwi (Hua division) Te Atiawa Iwi. Hello. I too am a descendant of Wiremu Tahana, Mere Tutu Tahana, and Minnie Barr nee Kum Sing. My father was Ernest Roy Barr, your father's brother and we lived in Palmerston North. If I can add anything you wish to know, or can tell me more ; please contact me on :- harper.bob@optusnet.com.au.
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Post by Dental Nurse on Jan 3, 2020 18:25:42 GMT 12
Hi there, thankyou for your reply. I really have very little information as I have just started this process. I was amazed to find the reference to Minnie. My Grandmother said her name was Cummings...we have only found out fairly recently that it was actually Kum Sing. I am living in Christchurch but was born in Wellington which is where my mother was born. Her mother being a daughter of Minnie's. I didn't think for a minute that I would have any luck finding out anything about our chinese heritage...I thought it would be too difficult. Is there any way we can communicate via email. Thanks again
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Post by Jeff on Feb 8, 2020 13:50:06 GMT 12
Hi, Wiremu Tahana was my 3rd great grandfather, Kum Sing was my great-great grandfather and Minnie is my great-grandmother. I too live in Christchurch and am exploring the family line. If you would like to share details, perhaps we can collaborate on this!? Cheers, Jeff.
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Post by Gerald Sydney Thorner on May 25, 2020 10:01:36 GMT 12
It is good to make contact with the extended family of Mary Bishop/Tahana/Hill; and Kum Sing/ Mere Tahana and Minnie Barr/ Cum Sing.All descendants of the above have a rich heritage.
Firstly the Bishops on the ship Timandra,arrived landing on the day of 23rd February 1842 at New Plymouth. Daniel and Louisa with their children including Mary Bishop and her attraction to Wiremu Tutu Tahana is an interesting story. It links Mary's offspring directly to the Tokomaru Canoe (Waka).Wiremu's parents were Kurai Te Wawa and Teretapu sister and brother in law respectively to Te Tehana Papawaka the Native Assessor and to their mother Te Wakangaru who is our te puna or ancestor of the Tokomaru Waka.
The whanau is called Hoewaka and that is the name on the urupa. Our closest relatives are the Broughton whanau through a sibling of Wiremu Tutu Tehana.
Wiremu and Mary had three children. Karo Tehana who married Edward James Blake in 1876. Mere Tehana married Kum Sing in 1876 as well and Ani Tehana who married and had a child called Kohi.
After Wiremu's death Mary Bishop married Matthew Hill her chief witness to her former partner's marriage Wiremu in 1867. Mere Tahana who married Kum Sing had three children. Louis Kum Sing who died as an infant,William Cum Sing and Minnie.Mere died on 11-1-1881.Her headstone has the sir- name spelt as "Kum Sung".Louis and William (who was a slaughterman and horseman) were buried with her.(NB I think there were two "Mere Tahana"s. (The photo of Mere Tahana which exists, may or may not be our Mere and we need to be aware of this) (I have a first cousin though who has a striking similarity of appearance to the person in the photo).Mere Tahana may also have "anglicized" her name as "Dolly".
Minnie Kum Sing married George Barr in 1899.They lived for many years at the family home in 130 Albert Street Palmerston North. They had ten children. Kia Ora te whanau! Gerald Sydney Thorner- Te Atiawa iwi-Puketapu hapu- Hoewaka whanau (Hua Division)Bell Block Ph-021 129 1249
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Post by Gerald Sydney Thorner on May 25, 2020 17:28:37 GMT 12
Hi, Wiremu Tahana was my 3rd great grandfather, Kum Sing was my great-great grandfather and Minnie is my great-grandmother. I too live in Christchurch and am exploring the family line. If you would like to share details, perhaps we can collaborate on this!? Cheers, Jeff. Dear Jeff ring me on 021 129 1249 for up dates on extended family Gerald Sydney Thorner Te Atiawa-Puketapu Hapu Hoewaka whanau-Hua Division(Bell Block)
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Post by Gerald Sydney Thorner on May 25, 2020 18:06:45 GMT 12
Dear Valery, I last met you when you were living at Trentham with Trevor. I am Norma and Ivan's son (Gerald) and I was named after Sydney Egmont Barr who was the son of Mini Kum Sing.I went to Trentham School. I hear that you are living in Masterton, and that currently that you are the eldest member currently of the Barr Family. I hope you are well. regards Gerald Thorner Te Atiawa Iwi-Puketapu hapu and Hoewaka whamau (Hua Division/BellBlock)
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Post by Gerald Sydney Thorner on May 25, 2020 18:27:00 GMT 12
MERE TAHANA. ♦ DEATH OF AN OLD CHIEFTAINESS [Pcs, Pbjess Associatiox.] NEW PLYMOUTH, September 25. Influenza and pneumonia have claimed a heavy death roll amongst the Maoris of late, the latest being Mere Tahana, one of the beet known Maori women in this district. For the last forty years she had been a prominent figure in and out of town. Mere died at Puketotara on Monday. She had outlived many husbands, and she was wonderfully well preserved and vigorous for her years. She was a member of the Ngati Parikino Bapu, of thfe Ngatiawa tribe, people who in former years inhabited the country along tho Valley ot Henui, and at the Kawau pa in New Plymouth. She was a woman of rank in her hapu, and had a very good knowledge of the history of her tribe. Her age was about seventy-five. She has left no children. Deceased had been ailing for some time, and exposure in attending the tangis that have been so numerous this winter told its tale. She was taken to the New Plymouth Hospital about a fortnight ago, but her friends at her request took her back to the old home at Puketotara on Saturday to die, as is the custom of # the Maori, amongst the tribe. The dwindling remnant of these people is; now reduced to just a few, probably not a score. SurpJy and swiftly the true Maori is passing, and as the elders pass away there are few, if any, to etep into the breach to make good the loss. MERE TAHANA. STAR, ISSUE 9043, 25 SEPTEMBER 1907 paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/TS19070925.2.25Mere Tahana described here is not our Mere Tahana. (I made the same mistake) our Mere Tahana also called "Dolly" married Kum Sing in 1876. She had three children Louis Kum Sing d.1881 William Kum Sing and Minnie Kum Sing. Mere died in 1881 and is buried in a nice and tidy grave at Te Henui with Louis and also William Kum Sing who is buried in the plot next door. The name on the tombstone is "Kum Sung" Chinese letters are also on the tombstone also. NB Mere owned 1- 27th of The Hoewaka Reserve at The Hua (Te Hua) Bell Block. All that is left now is the urupa or cemetary named "Hoewaka" which is our Maori family/whanau name. We are closely related ton the Broughton family. NB Minnie Barr the daughter of Mere Tahana had ten children. One of her daughters "Aunty Kath had 17 children. Surely we are the lost tribe of Hoewaka. Hopefully we can reconnect to our Marae Muru Raupatu regards Gerald Sydney Thorner Te Atiawa Iwi-Puketapu hapu-Hoewaka whanau-Hua Division.
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